Zero Books #140: Writing Sound

Emmanuelle Gibello is a Parisian composer, musician, performance artist and writer. She says her music, musical gestures and computer-assisted compositions are inspired by James Gleick’s Chaos Theory.

This podcast was recorded at the Cafe de Flore, one of the oldest cafes in Paris and a one-time hang-out for writers, artists and philosophers such as Georges Bataille and Pablo Picasso. You’ll hear quite a bit of background noise in this episode but you should think of it as ambience.

Again this is an excerpt from the full recording of the conversation. The rest will be made available on our Patreon page.

If you haven’t already you might pick up Anselm Jappe’s The Writing on the Wall or Ian Parker’s Revolutionary Keywords for a New Left. Also, Angela Nagle’s book Kill All Normies was recently used as the basis for a short documentary film on the Fusion cable network entitled Trumpland: Kill All Normies. You should purchase a copy of her book and search down the documentary.

You’ll hear excerpts from a youtube video on Pierre Schaeffer as well as a clip from his composition Études de bruits and a clip from the movie Jurassic Park along with a clip from Gibello’s #MTFParis performance on an instrument she designed called the Molf.

Zero Squared #65: Basic Drone

Joanna Demers is associate professor of musicology at the University of Southern California’s Thornton School of Music, where she specializes in post-1945 popular and art music. Her book with Zero Books Drone and Apocalypse was published on December 11th in 2015 and this week she returns to the podcast to discuss drone music more generally.

I want to thank people who reached out to me in the last week or so. Many people left compliments about last week’s podcast with Iona Singh and I think this week’s podcast about drone music works well as a follow up. Again we return to discussing aesthetics, perhaps from a formal perspective.

In this episode you’ll hear a clip from an old BBC documentary about Musique-Concrete, an original work of drone music created in Audacity by combining imported digital noise from the Adobe application and combining that with a stretched version of the National Anthem, an excerpt from John Cage’s album Indeterminancy, and the dronification of Star Wars, and Negativland’s Yellow Black and Rectangular.

Diet Soap Podcast #175: How to Listen to the New

The guest this week Michael Karman. Karman is the editor of Asymmetry Music Magazine, a magazine dedicated to exposing the general public to new and interesting art music, and we discuss how to listen, the problem of tradition, concrete music, John Cage, Coca-Cola bottles and more.

The music and sound in this episode includes A String Quartet playing Bad Romance by Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga herself only mashed up, reversed, and filtered, an excerpt of Michael Rodd from the BBC 1979 documentary “The New Sound of Music,” Emmanuelle-Gibello’s “Crashtest 10,” Ernst Krenek’s “Sinfonia no. 4”, John Cage talking about Coca-Cola bottles, and Luc Ferrari’s “Exploitation of Concepts.”

I want to thank Jacob L, Andrew M, Tracy V, Ted F, and John L who are regular subscribers to the podcast. I also want to thank Terry T, Andrew M (a second time), Adrien S, and Babafemi M for their very generous one time donations. If you’d like to donate you can find the paypal buttons on and at the podomatic page for Diet Soap. And in the next two months I’ll be starting a Kickstarter campaign in order to fund a Diet Soap tour that I plan to call “Think the Impossible!”

The music you’re listening to right now is Paul’s Dance by the Penguin Cafe Orchestra, but in just a moment you’ll be listening to Michael Karman and I discuss How to Listen to the New.